Re: [Imgcif-l] CBF - Adding binary proprietary format header dump

["Herbert J. Bernstein" <yaya@bernstein-plus-sons.com>]

Sorry -- I am still a little punchy from a high fever, I means to say:

> Personally I would agree with Harry that an ascii translation of binary
> header would be easier to work with in checking the format.  That could
> appear before the image without the risk of confusion.


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 Herbert J. Bernstein, Professor of Computer Science
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, Herbert J. Bernstein wrote:

> One important point -- while, strictly speaking, there should be no harm
> in adding additional binary sections anywhere in a CBF, I believe people
> have gotten used to finding the image as the first (and in all current
> cases as the only) binary section.  So, it might be a good idea to put
> such supplemental binary header binary sections after the image, so that
> packages that are looking for the image don't get confused.
>
> Personally I would agree with Harry that an ascii translation of binary
> header would be easier to work with in checking the format.  That could
> appear before the image with the risk of confusion.
>
> Regards,
>   Herbert
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>  Herbert J. Bernstein, Professor of Computer Science
>    Dowling College, Kramer Science Center, KSC 121
>         Idle Hour Blvd, Oakdale, NY, 11769
>
>                  +1-631-244-3035
>                  yaya@dowling.edu
> =====================================================
>
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2007, harry powell wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > I don't understand why you'd want to add the binary header, to be
> > honest. I can see why you might want to have the contents of the
> > header as an ASCII comment section - but I think this should just be
> > a check while developing the file format.
> >
> > Could you elaborate why you'd want it there?
> >
> > > Hello everyone,
> > >
> > > We here would, in fact, like to add our binary header to the CBF file.
> > > Should that just go into an additional binary section, with MIME
> > > header
> > > and all of that?  If so, is there any recommendation as to how we can
> > > refer to it in the CIF headers so that I can distinguish between the
> > > binary image data and our binary header data?  My inclination is to
> > > add
> > > the ".header_convention" column to my "_array_data" loop and fill
> > > it in
> > > with "RAY_1.0" or something like that for the our binary header and
> > > with
> > >   an empty value "" for the image data.
> > >
> > > e.g. :
> > >
> > > loop_
> > > _array_data.array_id
> > > _array_data.binary_id
> > > _array_data.header_convention
> > > _array_data.data
> > >   ARRAY1 1 RAY_1.0
> > > ;
> > > --CIF-BINARY-FORMAT-SECTION--
> > > <<MIME header for Rayonix binary header dump>>
> > > <<Rayonix binary header dump>>
> > > --CIF-BINARY-FORMAT-SECTION----
> > > ;
> > >   ARRAY2 2
> > > ;
> > > --CIF-BINARY-FORMAT-SECTION--
> > > <<MIME header for image binary data>>
> > > <<Image binary data>>
> > > --CIF-BINARY-FORMAT-SECTION----
> > > ;
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > --
> > > Justin Anderson                    Rayonix, LLC (Formerly Mar USA)
> > > Software Engineer                  justin@rayonix.com
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> > Harry
> > --
> > Dr Harry Powell, MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology, MRC Centre,
> > Hills Road, Cambridge, CB2 2QH
> >
> >
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