- 1. Results of our bioorganometallic chemistry reaction with [Cp*Rh(H2O)3](OTf)2 and 1-methylthymine in water at 60 °C and pH 10
- 2. Experiments to provide further proof of the structure of the anionic component [RhI(η1-N3-1-MT)2]−
- 3. Conclusions
- 4. Answering the Response of Raymond and Girolami to this rebuttal
- 5. Experimental
- References
- 1. Results of our bioorganometallic chemistry reaction with [Cp*Rh(H2O)3](OTf)2 and 1-methylthymine in water at 60 °C and pH 10
- 2. Experiments to provide further proof of the structure of the anionic component [RhI(η1-N3-1-MT)2]−
- 3. Conclusions
- 4. Answering the Response of Raymond and Girolami to this rebuttal
- 5. Experimental
- References
letters to the editor
Rebuttal to the article Pathological crystal structures
aLawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, University of California, Berkeley, CA 94720, USA, and bDepartment of Chemistry, University of California, Davis, CA 95616, USA
*Correspondence e-mail: rhfish@lbl.gov
A section in the Acta Crystallographica Section C article by Raymond & Girolami [Acta Cryst. (2023), C79, 445–455] stated that the product of the reaction of [(Cp*Rh)2(μ-OH)3]+ (Cp* is 1,2,3,4,5-pentamethylcyclopentadiene) with 1-methylthymine (1-MT) at pH 10 and 60 °C, to synthesize the anionic component [RhI(η1-N3-1-MT)2]−, was not an RhI complex, but rather an AgI complex, due to the use of silver triflate (AgOTf) to remove Cl− from [Cp*RhCl2]2 to synthesize [Cp*Rh(H2O)3](OTf)2, a water-soluble crystalline complex. We will clearly show that this premise, as stated, is invalid, while the authors have simply avoided several important facts, including that Cp*OH, a product, at pH 10 and 60 °C, was unequivocally identified, thus leading to the RhI anionic component [RhI(η1-N3-1-MT)2]−. More importantly, AgOH, from the reaction of NaOH at pH 10 with any potentially remaining AgOTf, after the AgCl was filtered off, would be insoluble in water. Furthermore, a control experiment with the inorganic complex Rh(OH)3, reacting with 1-methylthymine at pH 10, provided no product, and this bodes well for a similar fate with AgOTf and 1-methylthymine, i.e. at pH 10, AgOTf would again be converted to the water-insoluble AgOH; therefore, no reaction would occur! Finally, a 1H NMR spectroscopy experiment was carried out with synthesized and crystallized [Cp*Rh(H2O)3](OTf)2 in D2O at various pD values; at pD 8.65 no reaction took place, while at pD 13.6, and at 60 °C for 2 h, a reaction caused the precipitation of Cp*OH. The subsequent 1H NMR spectrum clearly demonstrated, in the absence of any AgI complexes, that the solution structure and the X-ray crystals in D2O were similar. A postulated mechanism for this novel anionic component structure, as published previously [Smith et al. (2014). Organometallics, 33, 2389–2404], will be presented, along with the experimental data, to insure the credibility of our results. We will also answer the comments in the response of Drs Raymond and Girolami to this rebuttal.
Keywords: rebuttal.
1. Results of our bioorganometallic chemistry reaction with [Cp*Rh(H2O)3](OTf)2 and 1-methylthymine in water at 60 °C and pH 10
Raymond and Girolami (2023) apparently did not fully comprehend that the AgOTf was used to form [Cp*Rh(H2O)3](OTf)2, in situ, in this example, while this aqua complex was used for the reactions with nucleobases, and as a function of pH (Chen et al., 1995; Smith et al., 2014). Moreover, the formed AgCl was not soluble in water; it precipitated out of the aqueous reaction mixture and was filtered off. These authors have also presented no definitive information to justify their premise, since AgOH, a water-insoluble AgI complex at pH 10, would be inactive for any reaction with 1-methylthymine, or even a plausible mechanism for AgI replacing RhI in this bioorganometallic chemistry reaction (Raymond & Girolami, 2023).
Furthermore, the formed [Cp*Rh(H2O)3](OTf)2 (pH 2–5) has been unequivocally shown to have a pH-dependent equilibrium, and provides a μ-OH complex, i.e. [(CpRh)2(μ-OH)2(H2O)2](OTf)2, at pH 5–7, and [(CpRh)2(μ-OH)3](OTf/OH) at pH 7–10 (Eisen et al., 1995). Thus, the pH was raised to pH 10 and provided [(CpRh)2(μ-OH)3](OTf/OH), which was reacted with 1-methylthymine, and eventually, by raising the temperature to 60 °C, this caused a reaction to occur that gave Cp*OH, identified by GC–MS (gas chromatography–mass spectrometry), after purification. The ironical aspect of this important finding of Cp*OH from a reaction was totally ignored by Raymond & Girolami (2023) and totally negated their supposition of a linear AgI versus the linear RhI characterization of this aspect of the X-ray structure (Fig. 1) (Chen et al., 1995; Smith et al., 2014).
Moreover, they stated that Cp*Rh complexes do not, in general, reductively eliminate the Cp* group from Cp*Rh. However, we found a precedent in the literature, in that a Cp*RhH3(SiEt3) complex in the presence of an excess of Me3P gave Cp*H, i.e. to provide an RhI complex (Paneque & Maitlis, 1989).
The unique stabilization provided by the π–π interactions of the cationic portion, [(Cp*Rh)2(μ-OH)3]3OH, which protected the 12e RhI atom from reactions with H2O, was to emphasize the special structural aspects of these bioorganometallic complexes. Furthermore, it was our supposition, in this particular case, that the electrostatic interaction between the anionic and cationic components, i.e. [RhI(η1-N3-1-MT)2]− and [(Cp*Rh)2(μ-OH)3]+, further stabilized adduct formation (Fig. 2).
The putative mechanism for the . This mechanism provided a logical pathway for the RhI complex [RhI(η1-N3-1-MT)2]−.
of Cp*OH is shown in Fig. 32. Experiments to provide further proof of the structure of the anionic component [RhI(η1-N3-1-MT)2]−
In order to provide more information on the [RhI(η1-N3-1-MT)2]− structure, in contention with the Raymond and Girolami premise of AgI rather than RhI, we had conducted several control experiments, never mentioned by these authors (Smith et al., 2014). The first experiment included the identification of Cp*OH, the product, via GC–MS (see Experimental, Section 5.3).
Secondly, the reaction of pre-synthesized Rh(OH)3 with 1-methylthymine at pH 10 did not provide any 1-methylthymine complexes, except Rh(OH)3 had precipitated from the aqueous solution. This result bodes well for a similar result with AgOH, and again, further solidifies the invalid premise of AgI versus RhI replacement put forward by Raymond and Girolami (see Experimental, Section 5).
The most revealing experiment for the RhI anionic component was a 1H NMR spectroscopy study utilizing the purified and crystalline aqua complex [Cp*Rh(H2O)3](OTf)2, i.e. no AgI was present. This experiment was conducted in D2O and at pD 8.65, with no reaction taking place according to 1H NMR spectroscopy; however, when the pD was raised to 13.6, and the reaction mixture heated to 60 °C for 2 h, Cp*OH again precipitated, and was filtered off. The pronounced upfield shifts were observed for π–π interactions, in concert with the X-ray (see Experimental for details).
3. Conclusions
It was unfortunate that Marilyn Olmstead could not defend her X-ray structure of [Rh(η1-N3-1-MT)2]2[(Cp*Rh)2(μ-OH)3]3OH, 12 (Fig. 2); however, we have been able to present data that clearly invalidate the premise of AgI instead of RhI in the anionic component [RhI(η1-N3-1-MT)2]−.
The salient data, not noted in the Raymond and Girolami article, concerning our X-ray structure of the anionic component is as follows: no AgI complex, such as AgOH, would be soluble at pH 10 in water to react with 1-methylthymine, as was the case with Rh(OH)3; since the authors stated the similarity of AgI with RhI, this single fact also eliminates their AgI for RhI premise.
Further corroborating evidence was the formation and identification of the I thesis and totally discounts the premise of an AgI complex for the anionic component [RhI(η1-N3-1-MT)2]− (Chen et al., 1995; Smith et al., 2014).
product, Cp*OH, when the pH and the temperature were raised to 10 and 60 °C, respectively. To reiterate, this seminal fact solidifies the RhFinally, the most significant experiment was the 1H NMR study in D2O, using the [Cp*Rh(H2O)3](OTf)2 that was purified and crystallized, with no AgI contamination. No reaction occurred until the pD was raised to 13.6, and the reaction mixture heated for 2 h at 60 °C. These reaction parameters caused Cp*OH to precipitate out of solution and it was filtered off. The 1H NMR analysis clearly showed significant upfield shifts of the C6-H signal to 7.10 ppm, or an upfield shift of Δδ = −0.14 ppm, while N-Me also moved upfield to 3.10 (Δδ = −0.05 ppm) and C5-Me was now at 1.63 ppm (Δδ = −0.04 ppm), which was from the 1-MT-Cp* π–π interactions that were shown by the X-ray structure. The [(Cp*Rh)2(μ-OH)3]OH dimer signal was at 1.38 ppm from 1.41 ppm with a Δδ = −0.03 ppm, which further verified that the solid-state and solution structures of complex 12 were very similar (Smith et al., 2014).
In this rebuttal to RhI versus AgI for the anionic component [RhI(η1-N3-1-MT)2]−, we have presented a convincing argument that reflected extensive experiments conducted to clearly define RhI as the metal for the entire complex. What Raymond and Girolami were focused on was their feelings about the AgI structure, without any other viable chemical facts. Furthermore, to reiterate, they apparently did not thoroughly read the Chen et al. (1995) and Smith et al. (2014) articles, since they totally missed the significance of the product, Cp*OH, clearly to provide an RhI anionic component. Moreover, the 1H NMR study was very revealing in that the pD (pD = pH + 4) and temperature were critical to the RhI designation, while totally dismissing the AgI scenario. We are confident that the Raymond/Girolami suggestion of AgI rather than RhI for the anionic component [RhI(η1-N3-1-MT)2]− is clearly incorrect, as our data have demonstrated.
4. Answering the Response of Raymond and Girolami to this rebuttal
The Response of Raymond & Girolami (2024) to this rebuttal included comments that were contradictory to what we stated; for example, `The rebuttal claims that compound 1 [12 in Smith et al. (2014)] can be synthesized from the `purified and crystalline aqua complex [Cp*Rh(H2O)3](OTf)2' and that therefore 1 [12 in Smith et al. (2014)] could not possibly have contained silver. If this claim were true, it would be significant, but in fact the Experimental section given in the rebuttal (and in the original articles) describes an in situ preparation of this triflate salt, as described in our next point' (Raymond & Girolami, 2024). The latter statement was patently false, in that the 1H NMR experiments in D2O, which incidentally Raymond and Girolami characterized as irrelevant, were conducted with purified crystals of [Cp*Rh(H2O)3](OTf)2 (no AgI present) at various pD values (see Experimental) and noting the pD values, where no reaction took place until the pD was raised to 13.6 and the temperature was raised to 60 °C to form Cp*OH, that was further purified via distillation and the use of a C-18 cartridge, followed by identification by GC–MS (Smith et al., 2014); note that pD = pH + 4.
Drs Girolami and Raymond has further questioned the 1H NMR spectra results concerning the chemical shifts, but failed to realize that the 1H NMR spectra of 12 in Chen et al. (1995) was conducted in CD3OD, while the 1H NMR experiment in Smith et al. (2014) with purified [Cp*Rh(H2O)3](OTf)2 was conducted in D2O, and thus the disparity in chemical shifts he mentioned were solvent driven. The 1H NMR of the crystals of 12 and the 1H NMR solution studies were compared in D2O, and were similar. Thus, his premise that AgI must be present in the X-ray results in Chen et al. (1995), because of the disparity between the 1H NMR results in Chen et al. (1995) and Smith et al. (2014), is invalid.
The only relevant statement made by the authors in their Response was a caveat that said the following in their conclusion statement: `Consequently, we fully acknowledge that the additional evidence we reported above does not prove that 1 [12 in Smith et al. (2014)] contains silver…' To reiterate, if Raymond and Girolami read the Smith et al. (2014) article, as they stated, they would also see structures not seen previously with inorganic–DNA complexes!
Moreover, I now remember Dr Girolami sending me an email that asked the question, AgI versus RhI, and that led to further experiments published in the Smith et al. (2014) article, as described in this rebuttal. One last thought about this scenario of AgI versus RhI is that this type of speculation can cause many colleagues who are interested in our bioorganometallic chemistry with many bioligands to possibly question our published X-ray structural studies in this area of research, even in the written presence of Raymond and Girolami's caveat contending that they were only questioning the X-ray structure of the anionic component [RhI(η1-N3-1-MT)2]−. Therefore, we stand firm in that with all their X-ray analysis and caveats, we believe we have shown clearly with the added experiments in Smith et al. (2014) that the AgI postulate is not valid and that the anionic component [RhI(η1-N3-1-MT)2]− contains an RhI metal-ion center!
Furthermore, we will attempt, in the future, to resynthesize complex 12 with pure [Cp*Rh(H2O)3](OTf)2 and obtain an Rh analysis to resolve the AgI versus RhI contention; however, our 1H NMR experiment in D2O did show the same chemical shifts, in the absence of any AgI contamination, as the 1H NMR in D2O for the crystals utilized for an X-ray analysis, which cannot be called irrelevant. To reiterate, the most critical data would be the Rh/Ag elemental analysis to definitively answer the question of RhI and not AgI for the anionic component of complex 12.
5. Experimental
5.1. Synthesis of [RhI(η1-N3-1-MT)2]2[(Cp*Rh)2(μ-OH)3]3OH, 12
To a solution of [Cp*RhCl2]2 (0.10 g, 0.16 mmol) in H2O (15 ml, degassed once) was added AgOTf (0.175 g, 0.68 mmol). The reaction mixture was stirred at ambient temperature for 3 h and was then filtered. The resulting filtrate was treated with 1-MT (0.045 g, 0.32 mmol) and, after all the 1-MT was dissolved, the pH was adjusted to 10 by the addition of 0.1 N NaOH. The final reaction mixture was degassed and stirred at 25 °C overnight, and at 60 °C for 2 h to drive the reaction to completion. The solution turned orange, and by reducing the volume of this reaction mixture to ∼3 ml, complex 12 was crystallized at 4 °C as orange plates (20% yield). 1H NMR (400 MHz, CD3OD): δ 7.24 (s, 1H, C6-H), 3.29 (s, 3H, N1-Me), 1.85 (s, 3H, C5-Me), 1.62 (s, 22.5H, Cp*). Elemental analysis calculated (%) for 12·10.5H2O (C84H128N8O18Rh8·10.5H2O): C 39.5, H 5.84, N 4.39; found: C 39.3, H 5.65, N 4.55.
5.2. product Cp*OH
The mechanism for the formation of the anionic component can be tentatively rationalized by the following observations. The distillate of the reaction mixture was analyzed by GC–MS techniques and provided information that Cp*OH was formed (m/z = 151 and 135 for [M − H]+ and [M − OH]+, respectively) during the reaction, which provided clear evidence for the loss of the Cp* ligand from RhIII to RhI.
5.3. Identification of Cp*OH via GC–MS
The aforementioned orange reaction mixture was distilled at 50 °C in vacuo, the distillate was passed through a C-18 cartridge, and finally the Cp*OH was eluted off the cartridge with a small amount of MeOH. The distillate of the reaction mixture was analyzed by GC–MS and provided information that Cp*OH was formed (m/z 151 and 135 for [M − H]+ and [M − OH]+, respectively) during the reaction, which further provided clear evidence for the loss of the Cp* ligand from RhIII.
5.4. 1H NMR experiments on the reaction of [Cp*Rh(H2O)3](OTf)2 and 1-methylthymine in D2O, as a function of pD (pD = pH + 4): complex 12
Thus, 18 mg (0.031 mmol) of [Cp*Rh(H2O)3](OTf)2 and 6.1 mg (0.043 mmol) of 1-methylthymine (1-MT) were dissolved in 300 µl of D2O at pD 10.45. The pD was again measured and found to be 8.65, after the two reactants were dissolved, providing a drop of 1.8 pD units. The 1H NMR spectrum showed that no reaction had taken place with free 1-MT at 7.24 (C6-H) and 3.15 ppm (N-Me), with the CpRh* signal being at 1.67 ppm. The [(Cp*Rh)2(μ-OH)3]+ dimer signal was at 1.41 ppm. When the pD was raised to 13.6 with NaOD and the mixture heated for 2 h at 60 °C, as before, Cp*OH precipitated out, and was filtered off, while there was a pronounced upfield shift of the C6-H signal to 7.10 ppm, or an upfield shift of Δδ = −0.14 ppm, while N-Me also moved upfield to 3.10 ppm (Δδ = −0.05 ppm) and C5-Me was now at 1.63 ppm (Δδ = −0.04 ppm), as expected from the 1-MT-Cp* π–π interactions shown by the X-ray structure. The [(Cp*Rh)2(μ-OH)3]OH dimer signal was at 1.38 ppm (from 1.41 ppm, Δδ = −0.03 ppm), which verified that the 1H NMR in D2O for the solid-state crystals and solution structures of complex 12 were similar.
5.5. Control experiment: reaction of 1-MT with [Rh(H2O)3](OTf)3
[Rh(H2O)3](OTf)3 was synthesized by the reaction of RhCl3·3H2O with 3 equivalents of AgOTf in water, while AgCl was filtered from the solution. Reaction of [Rh(H2O)3](OTf)3 with 1-MT at pH 10 did not provide complex 12, as evidenced via 1H NMR spectroscopy, but Rh(OH)3 was formed as a yellow precipitate and was identified via elemental analysis. Analysis calculated (%) for Rh(OH)3·1.2H2O: Rh 58.6, H 3.08; found: Rh 58.1.
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