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Describing neutron spin echo data from undulating lipid vesicles: recent advances

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aInstitut Laue–Langevin (ILL), 71 Avenue des Martyrs, 38042 Grenoble, CEDEX 9, France, bCenter for Neutron Research, National Institute of Standards and Technology, 100 Bureau Drive, Gaithersburg, MD 20899, USA, cDepartment of Materials Science and Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742, USA, dDepartment of Engineering Sciences and Applied Mathematics, Northwestern University, Evanston, IL 60208, USA, and eAvram and Stella Goldstein-Goren Department of Biotechnology Engineering, and Ilse Katz Institute for Nanoscale Science and Technology, Ben-Gurion University of the Negev, 84105 Beer Sheva, Israel
*Correspondence e-mail: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]

Edited by F. Roosen-Runge, Lund University, Sweden (Received 24 October 2025; accepted 15 December 2025)

This article is part of a collection of articles related to the International Conference on Neutron Scattering, ICNS2025.

For almost 30 years, the Zilman–Granek stretched exponential [Zilman & Granek (1996). Phys. Rev. Lett. 77, 4788–4791] has been used to obtain bending rigidities of membranes in lipid and surfactant vesicles from neutron spin echo data. However, with the advent of improved spectrometers that can easily measure Fourier times up to some 100 ns and even 1 µs, more subtle effects become visible in the data, which requires a refined theory. Recently, we published a framework for analysing such neutron spin echo data [Granek et al. (2024). Eur. Phys. J. E 47, 12]. Here, we apply this framework to different model membranes. The purpose of this paper is twofold. We intend to elucidate some often overlooked parameters, such as vesicle diffusion, size, lamellarity and membrane tension, that limit the quantitative interpretation of bending modulus values from NSE data. We also present some future opportunities to better understand the membrane dynamics and major sources of dissipation at the nanoscale uniquely probed with NSE.

1. Introduction

Measurements of membrane dynamics are among the most common applications of neutron spin echo (NSE) spectroscopy. This success is not least because of the Zilman–Granek model, which allows one to extract bending rigidities κ from the dynamic structure factor S(q,t) simply by fitting a stretched exponential. The relaxation rate of the stretched exponential Mathematical equation exhibits a proportionality Mathematical equation. This anomalous scaling results from the interplay of a relaxation that becomes faster with increasing bending rigidity while its amplitude becomes smaller so that the mean square dis­place­ment saturates at smaller values, and therefore the elastic level of the dynamic structure factor increases. The classic Zilman–Granek model is valid as long as the times up to which S(q,t) is measured are short enough that the relaxation from the undulations has not reached its elastic plateau. Modern NSE spectrometers reach Fourier times on the order of some 100 ns and even 1 µs, which is easily long enough to reach the elastic plateau. In practice, the experimentally observed S(q,t) will continue to decay because of translational diffusion, and it turns out to be experimentally difficult to disentangle the contributions from membrane dynamics and simple diffusion as their timescales are not well separated when using small unilamellar vesicles. While using larger vesicles seems like the most evident answer to the problem, such vesicles tend to be unstable over the considerable measurement times of NSE experiments (typically several hours), and they cannot be prepared at sufficiently high concentrations, which in turn would further increase measurement times.

Experimentally observed deviations from the theoretically predicted scaling due to finite vesicle sizes has led to several adaptations to the classic Zilman–Granek model (Monkenbusch et al., 2005View full citation; Gupta & Schneider, 2020View full citation; Hoffmann, 2021View full citation). As a result, reported values of the bending rigidity from NSE measurements of the same membrane composition vary dramatically, leading to confusion and controversy in the field (Gupta & Schneider, 2020View full citation). Fortunately, a recently published theoretical framework (Granek et al., 2024View full citation), which takes into account finite size effects and the spherical geometry of vesicles, provides a value for the elastic plateau and accurately takes into account the effect of diffusion. This new framework also allows an estimate of the values of the bending rigidity that can reasonably be measured using NSE, as overly high values of κ result in a vanishingly small amplitude of the membrane undulations.

Here we aim to provide some practical guidelines for when the classical Zilman–Granek model is sufficient to describe NSE data versus when the expanded theory for the finite size effects needs to be implemented. We also highlight some often overlooked factors that affect the quantitative interpretation of κ. We conclude by discussing the extracted values of the bending rigidity from NSE measurements in the context of theoretical models for the membrane fluctuation dynamics and potential new insights into the dominant sources of dissipation at the nanoscale.

2. Theory

In the framework of the classical Zilman–Granek theory for thin membranes (Zilman & Granek, 1996View full citation), starting from the Helfrich bending Hamiltonian (Helfrich, 1973View full citation), it was shown that the dynamic structure factor S(q,t) can be described as a stretched exponential decay Mathematical equation with

Mathematical equation

where Mathematical equation is Boltzmann's constant, Mathematical equation is the bending rigidity as obtained by NSE, T is temperature and η is the solvent viscosity. When accessing sufficiently long Fourier times (or investigating sufficiently small vesicles), the contribution to S(q,t) due to translational diffusion Mathematical equation with diffusion constant D becomes non-negligible. Thus it should be taken into account to compare vesicles of different sizes and to obtain correct absolute values of the bending rigidity.

The classical Zilman–Granek framework was developed for quasi-flat membrane plaquettes, and as such, a key assumption was that the radius R of the vesicles (or characteristic plaquette size of other membrane geometries) was sufficiently large such that Mathematical equation so that the large-scale structure of the membrane could be neglected (Zilman & Granek, 1996View full citation). The more rigorous requirement to see the predicted t2/3 scaling is that Mathematical equation. Here Mathematical equation, with the mean roughness of the membrane Mathematical equation, which is also half of the long-time limit of the membrane mean square displacement (Granek et al., 2024View full citation). For the q range accessible with NSE and typical values of κ and R, these conditions are not met as Mathematical equation. As such, the finite size of the vesicles becomes important, and significant deviations from the classical Zilman–Granek framework are expected in the q and t ranges accessible on modern NSE spectrometers.

Recently an extended version of the theory was developed that explicitly accounts for the spherical shape of the vesicles as well their finite size (Granek et al., 2024View full citation). Briefly, S(q,t) for spherical vesicles is given by

Mathematical equation

where the angular brackets indicate an average over the vesicle radius R and P(q) is the form factor of a thin spherical shell. Here, the diffusion constant is calculated using the vesicle size obtained from small-angle neutron scattering (SANS) through the Stokes–Einstein relation:

Mathematical equation

Averaging is performed over the same size distribution as in SANS. The dimensionless relative mean square displacement Mathematical equation is given by

Mathematical equation

where Mathematical equation for a vesicle with membrane thickness δ. The relaxation rate of mode l is given by

Mathematical equation

where Mathematical equation is the reduced membrane tension Mathematical equation, Mathematical equation are the viscosities inside and outside of the vesicle (which are usually identical), and Mathematical equation is the reduced Saffman–Delbrück length with membrane viscosity Mathematical equation. The dimensionless mean square amplitude is given by

Mathematical equation

and to obtain the mean square displacement [Mathematical equation], equation (4)[link] needs to be multiplied by R2.

Helfrich treated the membrane as a thin structureless sheet. However, this description starts to fail at small length scales and fast timescales, such as those probed with NSE, where bending of the bilayer with a finite thickness leads to compression of one monolayer and dilation of the other. In other words, the out-of-plane and in-plane dynamics are coupled, and dissipation within the bilayer becomes significant. This effect was first investigated by Seifert & Langer (1993View full citation) and gives rise to a compression–dilation mode in addition to the undulation mode (Seifert & Langer, 1993View full citation; Miao et al., 2002View full citation; Vlahovska & Granek, 2026View full citation). At sufficiently short time and length scales the compression–dilation mode cannot relax. Instead, the undulation mode relaxes with a higher, unrelaxed bending rigidity Mathematical equation, with the monolayer compression modulus Mathematical equation and monolayer neutral surface height d (the height at which bending the monolayer results in no additional stress), while the shape of the dynamic structure factor remains unchanged otherwise (Watson & Brown, 2010View full citation; Watson et al., 2011View full citation). Assuming the bilayer compression modulus is twice the monolayer compression modulus, Mathematical equation, this expression can be further simplified using the polymer brush model Mathematical equation (Rawicz et al., 2000View full citation) to give

Mathematical equation

where Mathematical equation is the thickness of the hydrophobic tails in the bilayer. The value of the neutral surface height is generally assumed to be between half and full monolayer thickness but otherwise not precisely known, so that the bending rigidity obtained from equation (1)[link] is simply rescaled with a scaling factor. In practice, the prefactor 0.025 in equation (1)[link] has often been replaced by a value of 0.0069 (Nagao et al., 2017View full citation; Gupta & Schneider, 2020View full citation; Hoffmann, 2021View full citation). We also note that, while it has often been assumed that NSE measures Mathematical equation as described by Seifert and Langer, there are a number of other theoretical models for dissipation within the bilayer [see for example Evans & Yeung (1994View full citation), Bingham et al. (2015View full citation) and Faizi et al. (2024View full citation)]. It is quite possible that the dominant source of dissipation, and therefore the appropriate model for the dynamics, may depend on the membrane composition. Therefore, we present our results as Mathematical equation and then discuss the values in the context of two theoretical models for membrane dynamics that consider the contribution from the two lipid leaflets moving past one another as the membrane bends.

3. Experimental methods

Lipids 1-palmitoyl-2-oleoyl-glycero-3-phosphocholine (POPC), 1-palimtoyl-2-oleoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosho-l-serine (POPS), di­palmitoylphosphatidylcholine (DPPC) and dioleoylphos­pha­tid­yl­choline (DOPC) were purchased from Avanti Polar Lipids and used as received. Cetyltrimethylammonium p-toluenesulfonate (CTAT, 95% purity) and sodium dodecyl­benzenesulfonate (SDBS, Pharmaceutical Secondary Standard Grade) were purchased from Sigma–Aldrich. CTAT was recrystallized twice from Mathematical equation1:10 by volume mixture of n-propanol and diethyl ether before use. The sample compositions and structural parameters are summarized in Table S1 in the supporting information.

To prepare the lipid vesicles, appropriate masses of the desired lipids were added to a vial and dissolved in chloroform. The chloroform was removed under a stream of nitrogen gas, and the lipid film was dried under vacuum overnight to remove any residual solvent. A suspension of multilamellar vesicles (MLVs) was prepared by hydrating the dried lipid film with deuterium oxide (99.9%D, D2O, Cambridge Isotopes) to a concentration of 20 mg of lipid per millilitre of D2O. All samples were prepared using the same MLV stock solution. Large unilamellar liposomes were prepared by extruding the MLV suspension at room temperature using a handheld Avanti mini extruder. All solutions were stored at room temperature before use.

To prepare the surfactant vesicles, appropriate masses of CTAT and SDBS were added to a vial. D2O was added to a final total mass fraction of 2 wt% surfactant. The solutions were allowed to equilibrate at room temperature for at least 4 weeks before measurement (Kaler et al., 1989View full citation).

NSE measurements were performed on the instrument IN15 at the Institut Laue–Langevin (ILL) in Grenoble, France, using either neutron wavelengths (λ) of 13.5, 12, 10 and 8 Å at scattering angles θ of 3.5°, 6°, 7.5° and 8.5°, respectively, covering a q range from 0.02 to 0.13 Å−1 (with an additional measurement at 6 Å, 9° extending the q range to 0.18 Å−1 where intensity was high enough) or, for the measurements to `long' times, scattering angles (wavelengths in parentheses) of 3.5° (17 Å), 6.5° (17 Å), 7.5° (13.5 Å), 10.5° (13.5 Å), 12° (12 Å) and 15° (12 Å) for a q range from 0.016 to 0.14 Å−1. The data presented in the paper have been corrected for the instrument resolution and background solvent using standard procedures.

SANS data were collected on the instruments D22 and D11 at ILL. Measurements on D22 were performed using neutron wavelengths of Mathematical equation Å with the detector carriages positioned at 1.4 and 17.6 m to collect data over a combined q range from 0.003 to 0.64 Å−1. Measurements on D11 were performed at three different sample-to-detector positions (38, 16.5 and 1.7 m) at a wavelength of 4.6 Å covering a q range from 0.0006 to 0.7 Å−1. Data were reduced using standard procedures in GRASP (Dewhurst, 2023View full citation).

4. Data analysis

The end goal of most NSE studies of lipid vesicles is to extract a value of the bending modulus. Yet there are a number of factors that influence the measured relaxations. In the following sections, we highlight several often overlooked factors that will affect the quantitative value of Mathematical equation and limit the ability to compare measured rigidities between different samples unless these effects are explicitly accounted for in data analysis. At the end, we show that, when these factors are accounted for using the extended theory, NSE is poised to provide new insights into nanoscale membrane dynamics.

4.1. Accounting for vesicle diffusion

Most vesicles used in NSE experiments are prepared by extrusion, where the average radius is determined by the filter pore size and is somewhere in the range of 15 to 200 nm. The corresponding contribution of vesicle diffusion to the dynamic structure factor is shown in Fig. 1[link], where the translational diffusion coefficients were calculated using the Stokes–Einstein relation [equation (3)[link]] and the viscosity of D2O at 25 °C. Even the largest vesicles, R = 200 nm, have a measurable diffusion contribution at 100 ns that should be accounted for in the data analysis. Fortunately, the diffusion contribution is multiplicative and straightforward to calculate in the dilute limit where the Stokes–Einstein equation can be used.

[Figure 1]
Figure 1
Calculated diffusion contribution at Mathematical equation Å−1 as a function of (a) vesicle size in dilute conditions and (b) lipid concentration (Mathematical equation) for a constant vesicle radius, R = 50 nm. Diffusion coefficients were calculated assuming a solvent viscosity of 0.0011 Pa s for D2O at 25 °C. Vesicle volume fractions were calculated from the lipid concentrations listed in the legend in (b) using equation (8)[link] and assuming Mathematical equation nm, Mathematical equation Å 3 and Mathematical equation g mol−1.

Accounting for vesicle diffusion in highly concentrated samples can be more complicated. Samples with concentrations as high as 50 to 100 mg mL−1 lipid in solvent have been used in some experiments to maximize the NSE signal. While the mass fraction of lipids is only on the order of 0.05 to 0.1, the corresponding effective volume fraction of vesicles is significantly higher because most of the vesicle volume (ϕ) is made up of the solvent-filled core:

Mathematical equation

where Mathematical equation is Avogadro's number, Mathematical equation is the lipid molecular volume, Mathematical equation is the mass concentration of lipids, Mathematical equation is the lipid molecular weight and δ is the bilayer thickness. These high lipid concentrations can correspond to vesicle volume fractions on the order of 0.2 to 0.4 depending on the radii, and the direct and indirect hydrodynamic interactions between vesicles will come into play and can affect the translational diffusion.

Diffusion in concentrated, uncharged hard spheres has been extensively studied. In the q range studied with NSE, the probed length scales typically are smaller than the spacing between vesicles. In that case, the self-diffusion coefficient (Mathematical equation), which in this q range where Mathematical equation has the same value as the collective diffusion coefficient, is given by

Mathematical equation

Here D0 is the diffusion concentration at infinite dilution calculated with the Stokes–Einstein equation (Cichocki et al., 1999View full citation; Cichocki et al., 2002View full citation). The expected diffusion contribution to the dynamic structure factor for R = 50 nm vesicles over a range of lipid concentrations calculated using equation (9)[link] is shown in Fig. 1[link]. While the diffusion is slower at the highest concentrations, it is still non-negligible in the NSE time window.

The calculations in Fig. 1[link] highlight that vesicle diffusion will contribute to experimental data for the range of vesicle sizes and lipid concentrations studied with NSE and must be accounted for to extract quantitative information about the membrane fluctuation dynamics. For Mathematical equation, accounting for the diffusion contribution using the Stokes–Einstein equation [equation (3)[link]] should be sufficient within the uncertainties in the data. A common practice is to use the D or Mathematical equation values from dynamic light scattering (DLS) for this purpose, although it is important to note that DLS measures the collective diffusion coefficient at low q values and is heavily weighted by the larger vesicles in polydisperse samples. In our experience, using the R values from SANS (which for spherical vesicles directly correspond to the hydrodynamic radius Mathematical equation) in equation (3)[link] gives the more reliable results without overestimating the contributions from the large vesicles and therefore giving an artificially small value of D. In more concentrated samples, correctly accounting for diffusion may require additional measurements. Equation (9)[link] was derived for uncharged hard spheres and has been shown to be accurate for Mathematical equation in colloidal solutions and to work well for zwitterionic lipid vesicles over a similar range of volume fractions (Gapinski et al., 2005View full citation; Banchio & Nägele, 2008View full citation; Kelley et al., 2022View full citation). Expressions for hard spheres at higher volume fractions have also been derived (Tokuyama & Oppenheim, 1994View full citation); however, diffusion in colloidal suspensions of soft particles with Mathematical equation and charged systems has not been extensively studied (Haro-Pérez et al., 2003View full citation Yu et al., 2011View full citation). Caution should be used in these cases when it comes to quantitatively interpreting the extracted value of Mathematical equation.

4.2. Considering sample aspects that influence membrane dynamics

In the following, we discuss the influence on the obtained bending rigidities of some vesicle properties that can be controlled during sample preparation, to some degree. Namely, we discuss the influence of vesicle size, multilamellarity and osmotic stress. We also discuss the influence of the membrane bending rigidity, which is not controlled by sample preparation but nonetheless crucially impacts our ability to measure the membrane dynamics with NSE.

4.2.1. Vesicle size

One of the experimental variables that has the greatest impact on the ability to resolve the membrane dynamics with NSE is the vesicle size. From a theoretical standpoint, larger vesicles are favourable, as sufficient undulation modes are accessible within the NSE window. From an experimental standpoint, smaller vesicles are favoured as they allow for higher lipid concentrations and thus ensure better statistics in a shorter measurement time, as well as promoting the formation of unilamellar vesicles (see Section 4.2.3[link] for more discussion).

The finite vesicle size effects are shown in Fig. 2[link]. Unless Mathematical equation nm and Mathematical equation ns, the finite size of vesicles leads to significant deviations from the commonly assumed stretched exponential scaling of the classical Zilman–Granek model [equation (1)[link]]. Failing to account for these effects in the NSE data analysis leads to incorrect values of Mathematical equation that are highly dependent on R (Fig. 3[link]).

[Figure 2]
Figure 2
Calculated dimensioned mean squared displacement of the membrane undulations without the contribution from diffusion, Mathematical equation Mathematical equation, for infinitely large vesicles (Mathematical equation) and for R values typical of extruded vesicles and assuming a membrane thickness of Mathematical equation nm and bending modulus Mathematical equationMathematical equation. In the infinite limit, the familiar t2/3 scaling from the classical Zilman–Granek stretched exponential is recovered; however, the finite size of extruded vesicles leads to significant deviations from the commonly assumed t2/3 scaling in the time window accessible on modern NSE spectrometers.
[Figure 3]
Figure 3
Values of Mathematical equation for POPC vesicles containing a mole fraction of 10% POPS extruded to different sizes for Mathematical equation Å−1 using the classical Zilman–Granek stretched exponential [equation (1)[link]] and the new framework that accounts for the finite size and spherical geometry effects [equation (2)[link]]. Data were originally published by Granek et al. (2024View full citation). Error bars represent one standard deviation from the least-squares fit to the NSE data.
4.2.2. Membrane rigidity

The membrane dynamics only give a significant contribution to the dynamic structure factor in a limited q range. Following equations (4)[link] and (6)[link] it is evident that this contribution also decreases with increasing bending rigidity. In Fig. 4[link] the q-dependent elastic levels for relatively small (30 nm radius) and large (200 nm radius) vesicles are shown. The elastic level scales as (qR)2, and for small vesicles and for bending rigidities above Mathematical equation500Mathematical equation there is almost no decay from the membrane undulations in the entire NSE q range. While for larger vesicles a significant decay can be observed in principle even for large values of Mathematical equation, the relaxation rates given by equation (5)[link] scale with R3 so that the undulations become quite slow for large vesicles. Ignoring tension and membrane viscosity, for a bending rigidity of 1000Mathematical equation and a radius of 200 nm in room temperature D2O, the relaxation time of the (slowest) Mathematical equation mode is more than 800 ns. Despite the high value of Mathematical equation and while the higher modes become faster, their amplitudes quickly become smaller with l so that measuring bending rigidities above Mathematical equation500Mathematical equation with NSE is rather difficult. Such high values are typically found in gel phase and liquid ordered samples and should always be taken as approximate at best.

[Figure 4]
Figure 4
Elastic level of undulation motions without the contribution from diffusion with different sizes and bending rigidities. For small vesicles and values of a few 100 Mathematical equation, there is almost no contribution to the dynamic structure factor from undulations.

In Fig. 5[link], to demonstrate this issue, we compare data from surfactant vesicles with a low bending modulus (κ on the order of a few Mathematical equation) and DPP vesicles containing a mole fraction of 50 mol% cholesterol with a significantly higher bending modulus (κ on the order a few hundred Mathematical equation). The dynamic structure factors for both samples do show a significant decay. However, comparing the shape of the curves reveals that the decay for the DPPC containing a mole fraction of 50% cholesterol sample looks almost like a single exponential and is mostly due to diffusion, as can be seen by the comparison between the purely diffusive contribution (dashed lines) and the curves where the bending rigidity was fitted (straight lines). While the order of magnitude of the obtained Mathematical equation values is not completely unrealistic, such values should be taken more as a qualitative result showing that the vesicle membrane is stiff enough that barely any undulations are visible (see Fig. 5[link], right). Interestingly, for the lowest q, extremely small Mathematical equation values are obtained. However, this is most likely the fit algorithm trying to compensate for imperfections in our description of the translational diffusion; by applying a very small Mathematical equation, the amplitude of the undulations becomes large and allows the fit to influence the curve.

[Figure 5]
Figure 5
(a) Dynamic structure factor and (b) corresponding Mathematical equation for soft surfactant vesicles composed of 20/80 CTAT/SDBS at a total surfactant mass fraction of 2% with a radius of 24 nm. (c) Dynamic structure factor from rigid vesicles composed of DPPC containing a mole fraction of 50% cholesterol extruded to give a radius of 35 nm and (d) corresponding best fit Mathematical equation values. Solid lines in (a) and (c) are fits with equations (2)[link] and (4)[link] to (6)[link], while dashed lines contain only the diffusive contribution. The extra decay due to membrane undulations is almost negligible in the data for the DPPC vesicles containing cholesterol (c). Error bars represent one standard deviation.
4.2.3. Multilamellarity

Both the classic Zilman–Granek [equation (1)[link]] and revised [equation (2)[link]] analysis frameworks describe the fluctuations of a single membrane bilayer. However, in practice, creating purely unilamellar vesicles is not trivial. Even after extrusion through filters with submicrometre pore sizes, the vesicles often have a distribution of the number of lamellae (N) (Scott et al., 2019View full citation).

While the precise effect of multilamellarity on the bending rigidity of the membrane depends on the specific system (Chiappisi et al., 2022View full citation; Bange et al., 2025View full citation), care has to be taken to separate the effect on the membrane rigidity from simple de Gennes narrowing (de Gennes, 1959View full citation) around the correlation peak that results from the multilamellar nature of the vesicles. Unfortunately, the correlation peak in multilamellar vesicles is typically located around Mathematical equation Å−1, which is right in the q range where a constant value of Mathematical equation is typically observed (Granek et al., 2024View full citation). At lower q, the transition between relaxed and unrelaxed bending rigidity is observed, and at higher q, the intensity drops drastically, making the interpretation of data quite difficult. So ideally, samples should be unilamellar (unless studying the effect of multilamellarity is the motivation of the study).

Fig. 6[link](a) compares Mathematical equation values for multilamellar [MLV, data from Alvarado Galindo et al. (2024View full citation)] and unilamellar (ULV) DOPC vesicles.

[Figure 6]
Figure 6
(a) Comparison of Mathematical equation values obtained from unilamellar (Mathematical equation) and slightly multilamellar (Mathematical equation) DOPC vesicles; the Bragg peak corresponding to the lamellar spacing at Mathematical equation Å−1 leads to higher apparent bending rigidities at the peak position. The dashed lines correspond to the calculated value of Mathematical equation for DOPC using values of κ, Mathematical equation and Mathematical equation reported for DOPC by Pan et al. (2008View full citation). (b) Corresponding SANS data normalized by the lipid mass fraction (Mathematical equation) (MLVs from D11, ULVs from D22). The multilamellarity is not immediately obvious in a plot of intensity versus q. MLV data are adapted from Alvarado Galindo et al. (2024View full citation). Error bars represent one standard deviation.

At the peak position, the effect of de Gennes narrowing in the MLV sample is quite drastic, giving a bending rigidity on the order of 500Mathematical equation. Meanwhile, above and just below the peak a value on the order of Mathematical equation150Mathematical equation is obtained, similar to the unilamellar DOPC sample and consistent with the expected value of Mathematical equation for DOPC (Pan et al., 2008View full citation). This significant effect is observed in the NSE data, even though the correlation peak is not particularly pronounced. In the SANS curve [Fig. 6[link](b)] the peak only becomes apparent in a Kratky plot (see Fig. S1) and analysis of the static scattering data gives an average of 4.1 lamellae (Alvarado Galindo et al., 2024View full citation). In practice, it is rather difficult to differentiate between the increase of Mathematical equation with q because of the transition from relaxed to unrelaxed bending rigidity and the added effect of de Gennes narrowing.

4.2.4. Osmotic stress and membrane tension

NSE data analysis has typically assumed that the membranes are tensionless, i.e. σ = 0, or equivalently that the measured fluctuation dynamics are dictated entirely by the membrane rigidity. Membrane tension in experimental systems often originates from osmotic pressure gradients (Mathematical equation) across the bilayer (Alam Shibly et al., 2016View full citation). As such, in isosmotic conditions, where the same buffer is inside and outside of the vesicle, the assumption that the vesicles are tensionless should be reasonable. However, neglecting to account for the effects of tension when it is present can significantly impact the interpretation of NSE data.

Fig. 7[link] plots the best fit Mathematical equation values for the same lipid vesicles intentionally subjected to different osmotic pressure gradients by dilution with either an isosmotic (sucrose inside = sucrose outside) or hyperosmotic (sucrose outside > sucrose inside) buffer assuming Mathematical equation. The value of Mathematical equation for the isosmotic sample is in good agreement with the best fit value for the same membrane composition prepared in pure D2O (Mathematical equation; Fig. 3[link]). Even after accounting for the difference in solvent viscosity inside and outside of the vesicles (Swindells et al., 1958View full citation), the osmotic pressure gradient leads to an apparent stiffening of the membrane with Mathematical equation values that vary by almost a factor of 2. If we instead assume that the Mathematical equation values for both samples are equal and fit the hyperosmotic data to determine the magnitude of σ, we get a value of Mathematical equation mN m−1 that is in surprisingly good agreement with the estimated tension based on the Laplace equation, Mathematical equation mN m−1, where Mathematical equation is the osmotic pressure gradient and R is the average vesicle radius.

[Figure 7]
Figure 7
Mathematical equation values neglecting the effects of membrane tension (i.e. assuming Mathematical equation) for POPC vesicles containing a mole faction of 10% POPS in different osmotic stress conditions. The vesicles were hydrated and extruded in 20 mmol L−1 (mM) sucrose in D2O and then diluted with either 20 mM sucrose or a more concentrated sucrose solution to induce an osmotic pressure gradient across the membrane. The data were fitted using a viscosity of 0.00111 Pa s for the 20 mM sucrose solution and 0.00116 Pa s for the 60 mM sucrose solution. Error bars represent one standard deviation from the least-squares fit to the NSE data.

Extreme care should be taken when analysing NSE data from samples that may be under osmotic stress. Immersing vesicles in buffers with different pH values, salts, sugars and macromolecules can all induce osmotic pressure gradients (Mui et al., 1995View full citation; Okano et al., 2018View full citation; Piccinini et al., 2025View full citation). Unexpectedly, preparing vesicles in buffer versus pure water has also been shown to create osmotic pressure gradients (Mui et al., 1993View full citation). If an osmotic pressure gradient is present in the samples, σ may have a non-negligible effect on the fluctuation dynamics and may need to be taken into account.

4.3. Modelling contributions from membrane fluctuations

In the previous section, we presented the values of the bending modulus as Mathematical equation to distinguish the values extracted from NSE from other methods, especially methods that measure the time-average height–height correlation function such as diffuse X-ray scattering and shape analysis. In this section, we discuss Mathematical equation values in the context of theories for membrane dynamics that account for lipid redistribution within the membrane. Specifically, we discuss the observed q and Fourier time range dependence of Mathematical equation as well as potential effects of membrane viscosity.

4.3.1. The measured bending rigidity is q dependent

To obtain values of Mathematical equation comparable to bending rigidities obtained from other methods, it has always been necessary to apply a scaling factor to NSE results as the Mathematical equation values from NSE are about a factor of 10 larger. The significant difference in values of the bending rigidity has typically been attributed to the difference in relaxed (κ) and unrelaxed (Mathematical equation) bending rigidities, where at the nanoscale the undulations are too fast for lateral diffusion of lipids to maintain the area density (Seifert & Langer, 1993View full citation; Watson & Brown, 2010View full citation; Watson et al., 2011View full citation). As such, extending NSE measurements to longer times and larger length scales should allow us to probe the transition from κ to Mathematical equation.

We have previously shown (Granek et al., 2024View full citation) that using equations (2)[link] and (4)[link] to (6)[link] the NSE data from POPC/POPS vesicles yield size-independent bending rigidity values of about 140Mathematical equation. However, these values are q dependent and are constant only for Mathematical equation Å−1. Interestingly, the q dependence does not depend on the vesicle size (Fig. 8[link]) but does seem to have some dependence on the membrane bending rigidity (Fig. 5[link]). We have tentatively attributed the decrease of Mathematical equation at low q to the transition from the unrelaxed bending rigidity which is measured at high q and short times to the relaxed bending rigidity which is measured at longer time and length scales. Here, we further test this hypothesis by reproducing two of the samples, namely vesicles with average radii of Mathematical equation nm and Mathematical equation nm, and measuring them to even longer times up to almost 1 µs for the smallest q. Good fits are obtained (see Fig. 8[link], top) and Mathematical equation tends to a plateau only at higher q (see Fig. 8[link], bottom, open symbols) compared with our previous measurements (closed symbols). This finding further supports the hypothesis that the q dependence in the Mathematical equation values is due to the transition from unrelaxed to relaxed bending rigidity.

[Figure 8]
Figure 8
(a) Dynamic structure factor of POPC/POPS vesicles with Mathematical equation nm measured up to 1 µs; fits using equations (2)[link] and (4)[link] to (6)[link]. (b) Mathematical equation values obtained from fits for measurements up to 1 µs (open symbols) and fits for data measured up to 500 ns (closed symbols). The data measured to longer times only reach a plateau at higher q, supporting the hypothesis that the q dependence in Mathematical equation is due to the transition from unrelaxed to relaxed bending rigidity. Error bars represent one standard deviation.

If we assume that the high-q limit of Mathematical equation does indeed correspond to Mathematical equation of 140Mathematical equation, and combine this value with results from other experimental methods that give κ values around 20Mathematical equation (Granek et al., 2024View full citation), this gives a factor 7 difference between the values. Using equation (7)[link], we can then estimate that the neutral surface height is approximately half the hydrophobic bilayer thickness [Mathematical equation] (Nagle, 2021View full citation). This means that the neutral surface is located between the hydrophobic tails and hydrophilic headgroups, at least for these lipid systems, as is typically assumed and seen in simulations (Kozlov & Winterhalter, 1991View full citation; Campelo et al., 2014View full citation).

4.3.2. Membrane viscosity

The fact that using equations (2)[link] and (4)[link] to (6)[link] yields a vesicle-size-independent value of Mathematical equation is encouraging. However, the potential influence of membrane viscosity on the membrane dynamics measured with NSE has not yet been widely explored (Faizi et al., 2024View full citation; Heinrich & Nagle, 2025View full citation). Since the membrane viscosity enters through the reduced Saffman–Delbrück length, the influence should be weakest for the largest vesicles. The fact that Mathematical equation enters in the relaxation rates [equation (5)[link]] but not the amplitudes [equation (6)[link]] suggests that it may be feasible to determine both Mathematical equation and Mathematical equation from NSE measurements. However, in practice it turns out to be impossible to leave both values free and to get consistent values between different vesicle sizes. The reason is probably technical in nature. A small value of Mathematical equation ensures a large amplitude for the membrane undulations, and the corresponding relaxation rates can still be manipulated by changing Mathematical equation. As a result, the fits with larger values for the membrane viscosity will almost always result in smaller Mathematical equation values simply because this compensates for imperfections in the description of vesicle diffusion. Imposing fixed values of Mathematical equation and fitting Mathematical equation for different vesicle sizes leads to various minima in Mathematical equation at rather arbitrary values of Mathematical equation and at unphysical values of the membrane rigidity (see Fig. S2). From our measurements, we can still give an estimate of the upper limit of Mathematical equation. If we assume that Mathematical equation should be identical between different vesicle sizes, the membrane viscosity should be no larger than the smallest value where size-dependent differences in Mathematical equation occur. Imposing a value of Mathematical equation as small as 1 nPa s m already leads to a vesicle-size-dependent Mathematical equation (see Fig. S3), and Fig. 9[link] shows values of Mathematical equation in the high-q limit obtained when imposing different values of Mathematical equation. It can be seen that imposing a value for the membrane viscosity has the largest influence on the smallest vesicles, as expected. Also, differences in Mathematical equation for a given value of Mathematical equation become visible significantly below 1 nPa s m, and the true value for fluid phase vesicles such as those investigated here seems to be on the order of 0.1 nPa s m or even lower. Therefore, using the approximation Mathematical equation seems well justified for fluid membranes, and we do not drastically overestimate the value of the bending rigidity by doing so. Interestingly, Lisy & Brutovsky (2000View full citation) find a similar value of 0.14 nPa s m for the membrane viscosity of a surfactant layer in a droplet microemulsion.

[Figure 9]
Figure 9
Bending rigidity obtained for different vesicle sizes imposing values of the membrane viscosity indicated on the x axis. Differences in Mathematical equation between different vesicle sizes become apparent significantly below Mathematical equation nPa s m.

5. Summary and conclusions

In this paper, we have shown that it is possible to obtain quantitative, physically reasonable values of the bending rigidity of vesicles using the framework published by Granek et al. (2024View full citation) over a considerable range of values of the bending rigidity.

While the classical Zilman–Granek stretched exponential works fine for the relative comparison of vesicles with a reasonably soft membrane (but κ still large enough for the equation to be valid) and similar sizes, the absolute values that are obtained using a prefactor of 0.0069 in equation (1)[link] are not necessarily physically reasonable as it implies that the neutral surface height is outside the membrane (Hoffmann, 2021View full citation; Nagle, 2021View full citation). Also, equation (7)[link] assumes that the relationship between κ and Mathematical equation follows the polymer brush model (Rawicz et al., 2000View full citation). While this should be a reasonable assumption for fluid lipid membranes, the polymer brush model is known to fail for lipids with multiple degrees of unsaturation and for membranes containing inclusions such as oils, cholesterol or transmembrane peptides (Rawicz et al., 2000View full citation; Usuda et al., 2020View full citation; Nagle, 2021View full citation; Shchelokovskyy et al., 2011View full citation). For more complex membrane compositions, observed changes in Mathematical equation may not necessarily reflect changes in the bending modulus.

To obtain reasonable values of the bending rigidity, a number of things must be considered nevertheless, including (1) diffusion, (2) magnitude of κ, (3) multilamellarity and (4) experimental q range.

(1) In almost every case, it is absolutely necessary to take into account the diffusion of the vesicles. In our experience, it is best to use sizes from SANS and convert them to diffusion coefficients using the Stokes–Einstein equation, as SANS operates in a q range similar to NSE. For vesicles, the NSE q range is usually high enough not to be affected by de Gennes narrowing, as opposed to DLS where its low q also gives a higher weight to larger vesicles in polydisperse samples. In other words, it is not straightforward to determine whether the DLS diffusion coefficient overestimates or underestimates the value needed for NSE. If the effective volume fractions of samples become too high (Mathematical equation), it is necessary to rescale the Stokes–Einstein diffusion coefficient. Potentially, it could be an option to use the long-time slope of the dynamic structure factor at low q.

(2) We have also demonstrated that NSE is not well suited to the measurement of vesicles with arbitrarily large bending rigidities, as the amplitudes due to membrane undulations become very small. Even though a considerable decay of the dynamic structure factor might be observed, it could be almost entirely due to diffusion.

(3) Around the q position of the intermembrane correlation peak in multilamellar vesicles, drastically increased bending rigidities are observed due to de Gennes narrowing. Therefore, complementary SANS measurements are necessary not only to determine the size of the vesicles but also to check their unilamellarity. Unfortunately, the correlation peak tends to be located exactly where reliable values of the unrelaxed bending rigidity could be extracted otherwise, so care should be taken to obtain unilamellar samples.

(4) Until more data are available to compare with theoretical predictions for the transition between κ and Mathematical equation, it is necessary to measure to sufficiently high q so that a plateau in Mathematical equation is reached and can be identified as Mathematical equation. Fortunately, this plateau is reached before the first form factor minimum because of the membrane thickness (Mathematical equation Å−1 for typical lipids) beyond which measurements become unreasonably time consuming owing to a lack of intensity.

The hypothesis that the q dependence of Mathematical equation is due to the transition between κ and Mathematical equation is supported by the fact that lower values of Mathematical equation that reach the same plateau only at higher q are obtained when measuring to longer Fourier times. For the time being, it seems to be sufficient to measure the dynamic structure factor up to a few hundred nanoseconds, while extending the measured time range further might become critical to verify a complete theory or extract other membrane properties beyond the bending rigidity.

Using equations (2)[link] and (4)[link] to (6)[link] we have tested the assumption that both membrane viscosity and tension can be ignored for simple fluid membranes. From our measurements we can see that, in fluid phase membranes, the membrane viscosity is probably on the order of 0.1 nPa s m, and ignoring it leads only to a slight overestimation of the bending rigidity. This may be different for less fluid membranes, with larger values of the membrane rigidity or membrane viscosity. The value of ≈0.1 nPa s m compares well to what has been found by NSE through thickness fluctuations and through rheology in oil (C18) swollen surfactant (C12) membranes (Bradbury & Nagao, 2016View full citation).

The fact that we can obtain tensions in good agreement with the Laplace equation when deliberately introducing osmotic pressure suggests that the assumption that the vesicles are tensionless otherwise is well justified. However, this also implies that care must be taken not to induce an osmotic pressure gradient in the samples, unless it is specifically taken into account.

With all the above aspects taken into account, we are convinced that the way is paved for future NSE studies on more complex systems which can provide accurate data on the bending rigidity using the framework published by Granek et al. (2024View full citation). Ongoing work to extend the Seifert–Langer two-leaflet model (Seifert & Langer, 1993View full citation) for quasi-planar membranes to finite-size spherical vesicles, accounting also for the membrane viscosity, might be able to explain NSE data up to the longest measurable time of 1 µs (Miao et al., 2002View full citation; Vlahovska & Granek, 2026View full citation). Moreover, the generalized forms of equations (2)[link] to (6)[link] allow for the extension to theoretical models for other sources of dissipation in more complex membrane systems like those containing transmembrane pores (Prost et al., 1998View full citation; Moleiro et al., 2017View full citation) or embedded in structured fluids (Granek & Diamant, 2018View full citation) as well as models for dynamics beyond pure bending modes, such as thickness fluctuations (Bingham et al., 2015View full citation; Woodka et al., 2012View full citation) or tilt fluctuations (May et al., 2004View full citation; Terzi & Deserno, 2017View full citation). Together, the continued advances in theory and experiments make NSE an essential technique for understanding the nanoscale dynamics in membranes.

Supporting information


Acknowledgements

The authors gratefully acknowledge A. Zilman, who tragically passed away in April 2024. Without his contributions, this work would not have been possible. Allocation of beam time by the ILL is gratefully acknowledged. We would like to thank S. Prévost and L. Porcar for help with SANS measurements and M. Gradzielski for allowing us to use some previously published data. The authors also thank R. Dimova for the suggestion to partially deflate the vesicles to look for the effects of membrane tension. Certain equipment, instruments or materials are identified in this paper to adequately specify the experimental details. Such identification does not imply recommendation by the National Institute of Standards and Technology nor does it imply that the materials are necessarily the best available for the purpose.

Funding information

EGK and MN acknowledge funding from the Center for High Resolution Neutron Scattering, a partnership between the National Institute of Standards and Technology and the National Science Foundation under DMR-2010792. PV and RG acknowledge support from the United States–Israel Binational Science Foundation, Jerusalem, Israel (BSF grant number 2024173).

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